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	<link>http://redotheweb.com</link>
	<description>Aren't you tired of being tied in a web?</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 18:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on No one is irreplaceable by Ryan Weaver</title>
		<link>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-613</link>
		<author>Ryan Weaver</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 11:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-613</guid>
					<description>&lt;p&gt;François - I'll greatly miss your contributions. Your contributions to this blog alone have been, in my opinion, the most insightful and innovative that I've seen in the Symfony community.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ryan&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>François - I&#8217;ll greatly miss your contributions. Your contributions to this blog alone have been, in my opinion, the most insightful and innovative that I&#8217;ve seen in the Symfony community.</p>
<p>Ryan</p>
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		<title>Comment on No one is irreplaceable by James</title>
		<link>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-612</link>
		<author>James</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 11:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-612</guid>
					<description>&lt;p&gt;Francois, thanks for the effort you have put in the documentation.  The book was the reason I am able to use symfony. Going through API documentation is just too hard.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am sorry to see you leave the project and hope the symfony 1.1 documentation will be as good as the current book/documetation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Would you be interested in maintaining docs if the sf1.0 branch would be maintained in the current spirit by a 'separate' team? (as has been suggested by arhak)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Francois, thanks for the effort you have put in the documentation.  The book was the reason I am able to use symfony. Going through API documentation is just too hard.</p>
<p>I am sorry to see you leave the project and hope the symfony 1.1 documentation will be as good as the current book/documetation.</p>
<p>Would you be interested in maintaining docs if the sf1.0 branch would be maintained in the current spirit by a &#8217;separate&#8217; team? (as has been suggested by arhak)</p>
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		<title>Comment on No one is irreplaceable by Hugo</title>
		<link>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-611</link>
		<author>Hugo</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 10:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-611</guid>
					<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh my God, I'm a bit disappointed to learn you left the Symfony Core Team. All your contributions (docs, apps or plug-ins) were very helpfull for all the community and people who wanted to practise Symfony.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I hope your new hobbies and open-source activity still continue in other exciting projects.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Best regards,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hugo.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my God, I&#8217;m a bit disappointed to learn you left the Symfony Core Team. All your contributions (docs, apps or plug-ins) were very helpfull for all the community and people who wanted to practise Symfony.</p>
<p>I hope your new hobbies and open-source activity still continue in other exciting projects.</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Hugo.</p>
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		<title>Comment on No one is irreplaceable by Guglielmo</title>
		<link>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-610</link>
		<author>Guglielmo</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 10:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-610</guid>
					<description>&lt;p&gt;So many thanks for the excellent documentation work you've done, François.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I remember two years ago I was looking for a PHP framework to develop a new project and Symfony was definetly choosen for its semplicity.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;During these two years, and many projects thereafter, I have discovered that Symfony was not  only 'simple', it is complex and flexible, but its documentation, and the API made it simple for us beginners.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So, being a developer, I do agree with you (and with Talleyrand), API design is way too serious and important to be left to us hackers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good luck and let us know where you will bring your talent next time.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many thanks for the excellent documentation work you&#8217;ve done, François.</p>
<p>I remember two years ago I was looking for a PHP framework to develop a new project and Symfony was definetly choosen for its semplicity.</p>
<p>During these two years, and many projects thereafter, I have discovered that Symfony was not  only &#8217;simple&#8217;, it is complex and flexible, but its documentation, and the API made it simple for us beginners.</p>
<p>So, being a developer, I do agree with you (and with Talleyrand), API design is way too serious and important to be left to us hackers.</p>
<p>Good luck and let us know where you will bring your talent next time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on No one is irreplaceable by youx</title>
		<link>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-609</link>
		<author>youx</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 08:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-609</guid>
					<description>&lt;p&gt;Fanstastic work you have done, thanks a lot for everything and I hope you will meet new challenges as interesting as your skills.
Loïc&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fanstastic work you have done, thanks a lot for everything and I hope you will meet new challenges as interesting as your skills.<br />
Loïc</p>
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		<title>Comment on No one is irreplaceable by Lukas</title>
		<link>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-608</link>
		<author>Lukas</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 08:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-608</guid>
					<description>&lt;p&gt;I have not played with symfony 1.1 at all, but it also seems to be like most of the criticism revolves around the forms layer. I am sure that someone could put together a plugin that behaves like the old helpers using the new forms layer as a basis.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyways, if you choose to join another OSS project, they will see a huge boost no doubt. People willing to write documentation are a scarce ressource, those that master and enjoy it are even fewer to be found in OSS.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not played with symfony 1.1 at all, but it also seems to be like most of the criticism revolves around the forms layer. I am sure that someone could put together a plugin that behaves like the old helpers using the new forms layer as a basis.</p>
<p>Anyways, if you choose to join another OSS project, they will see a huge boost no doubt. People willing to write documentation are a scarce ressource, those that master and enjoy it are even fewer to be found in OSS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on No one is irreplaceable by Sylvio</title>
		<link>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-607</link>
		<author>Sylvio</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 08:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-607</guid>
					<description>&lt;p&gt;Salut,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I had look for a framework like Symfony for years before I discover it. It was the Saint Grall and more over it has a huge &#38; clear documentation which is noteworthy written style so It take me just a second to decide to leave my old home made little pear powered CMF and to developp all my web projects with Symfony. This documentation is essential because starting to use a framework like Symfony is not easy for a lot of developper who are used to use little packages (like Pear) or turnkey cms (with the hand in the engine to add business features). Symfony is clearly the state of art. I hope like you explain that 1.1 version will not be too difficult to use simply because php developpers are not java developpers (I will not write a book here to explain).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I hope you will continue to be present some time in Symfony Community for SF 1.0 or plugins.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks a lot and a lot for all your work !
Sylvio&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut,</p>
<p>I had look for a framework like Symfony for years before I discover it. It was the Saint Grall and more over it has a huge &amp; clear documentation which is noteworthy written style so It take me just a second to decide to leave my old home made little pear powered CMF and to developp all my web projects with Symfony. This documentation is essential because starting to use a framework like Symfony is not easy for a lot of developper who are used to use little packages (like Pear) or turnkey cms (with the hand in the engine to add business features). Symfony is clearly the state of art. I hope like you explain that 1.1 version will not be too difficult to use simply because php developpers are not java developpers (I will not write a book here to explain).</p>
<p>I hope you will continue to be present some time in Symfony Community for SF 1.0 or plugins.</p>
<p>Thanks a lot and a lot for all your work !<br />
Sylvio</p>
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		<title>Comment on No one is irreplaceable by Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-606</link>
		<author>Sebastian</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 07:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-606</guid>
					<description>&lt;p&gt;First of all: François, thank you!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The excellent symfony documentation was one of the reasons why our company chose symfony.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I agree with you that there should a sophisticated, but also a simple way of doing most things (= that means two ways, but not more, otherwise an API gets too bloated IMO)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I disagree with some commenters, you shoudn't equate symfony 1.1 with the new forms etc. AFAIU you don't have to take forms 1.1 when you want to use sf 1.1.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe that's the huge step that sf 1.1 takes forward: being so decoupled that we have more choices. Couldn't that be the step forward towards a more community-driven project?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sebastian&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all: François, thank you!</p>
<p>The excellent symfony documentation was one of the reasons why our company chose symfony.</p>
<p>I agree with you that there should a sophisticated, but also a simple way of doing most things (= that means two ways, but not more, otherwise an API gets too bloated IMO)</p>
<p>I disagree with some commenters, you shoudn&#8217;t equate symfony 1.1 with the new forms etc. AFAIU you don&#8217;t have to take forms 1.1 when you want to use sf 1.1.</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s the huge step that sf 1.1 takes forward: being so decoupled that we have more choices. Couldn&#8217;t that be the step forward towards a more community-driven project?</p>
<p>Sebastian</p>
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		<title>Comment on No one is irreplaceable by Brett</title>
		<link>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-605</link>
		<author>Brett</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 06:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-605</guid>
					<description>&lt;p&gt;You will be missed. Best of luck in your future endeavors.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You will be missed. Best of luck in your future endeavors.</p>
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		<title>Comment on No one is irreplaceable by samon</title>
		<link>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-604</link>
		<author>samon</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 04:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/#comment-604</guid>
					<description>&lt;p&gt;François, Thank you for all your work for symfony, this is main reason for me to choice symfony.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PS: your daughter is so beautiful:)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>François, Thank you for all your work for symfony, this is main reason for me to choice symfony.</p>
<p>PS: your daughter is so beautiful:)</p>
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